Model Railroad Podcast

Model Railcast Show #91
Tue, Dec 22, 2009

Show #91 - The Dave Frary Interview  
 

 Crew Lounge

 Round House
  • An interview with Dave Frary of MrScenery.com
    • Dave and the Podcast
    • Getting started in model railroading (Dave's story)
    • Photography, Bob Hayden and writing articles
    • Dave & Marty reminisce - Carrabassett and Dead River
    • Dave's stories about shows and road layouts
    • Ryan asks Dave and Marty general questions on RR shows and attendance
    • The Pennsy Layout story
    • Mr. Scenery and other Frary offerings.

...another hour+ of Dave Frary the interview will be posted in the Pioneer section very soon.

That's a Wrap

 

Length: 1.7 hours

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Posted by: motrak MRCS Pioneer on Tue, Dec 22 2009     www.motrakmodels.com
Very good interview with Dave.
Marty and Ryan did a great job on it.
It's always good to hear what Dave's up to.
His books are one of the best on the market.

Posted by: Gil Janus MRCS Pioneer on Tue, Dec 22 2009    
I really enjoyed that interview with Dave. Ryan and Marty - you guys did a great job.

Keep up the good work.

Gil, known as Bill somedays ...

Posted by: bobcatt MRCS Pioneer on Wed, Dec 23 2009     bobcatts2bits.blogspot.com/
Dave is a riot. I love listening to his recollections.
The articles on the C&DR remain inspirational to this day.
Thanks for having him on the show.

Posted by: alkemscalemodels MRCS Pioneer on Wed, Dec 23 2009     www.alkemscalemodels.com
Great show with Dave. He is a great raconteur. I offer the following comments.
1. About 14 years ago the Frary PRR middle division was on tour at Greenberg shows. Our NTRAK club had a set up at one of the shows and I had a chance to see the layout. In a coincidence, yesterday, my daughter and I were going through old photos and came across some snap shots I took of the layout. I too was appalled at how the Greenberg folks treated the layout. I have seen the same behavior when people load club owned modules or help others. They treat the modules/layout sections like pieces of cord wood.
2. NMRA National shows are just too expensive. They also have a policy of not reimbursing invited speakers and clinicians, but they do cover the NMRA officers' expenses. Just last week a rep "invited" me to the NMRA show in Milwaukee to present a talk on Steel Mill modeling. They said they would cover the cost of printing handouts but no other expenses. NMRA regional shows are much more accommodating.

Posted by: jbaakko on Fri, Dec 25 2009     rr.blockchoice.com
According to one of the founders of the RPM meets, Joe D'Elia (of Proto Power West/A-line/Arrow Hobbies/New Rail Models fame), the RPM concept was NOT formed as described on the show. It was formed in response to the "lack of modern prototype modeling being shown in contests, displays and publications in the model railroading hobby."

For more, visit the RPM page on PPW/A-line's site:
http://www.ppw-aline.com/rpm.htm

I've gone to WPM the last 2 years. I feel it's not really about the "train show" but rather a place to meet friends, and see other people's models. 2008, I met allot of people, big names and unknown's. Friendly bunch, no one "criticized" models (openly). Learned a TON more then I had previously known about my UP E9 trio.

2009, I got to re-aquatint myself with the same people, plus meet more. Showed off the updated E9's, and much more. Learned a TON about recent tank car releases from a clinic. Spent around an hour chatting with Craig Martin of BLMA models, and some of that time with Paul (?) of Details West (Craig & Paul are good friends now)...

Its a great place to meet fellow modelers, and not so much of a crowded setting as an NMRA meet, or a train show. On occasion I bump into the same modelers at the San Diego Model Railroad Museum, during the swap meet (or other times), and some times elsewhere.

Posted by: CVSNE MRCS Pioneer on Fri, Dec 25 2009     snery.com
J,

My comments were directed towards the true stand-alone"RPM" meets . . . most of the items on that web site refer to the RPM meetings (for lack of a better term) that were held in conjunction with a number of NMRA National conventions

Posted by: CVSNE MRCS Pioneer on Fri, Dec 25 2009     snery.com
J,

There's nothing incorrect about what Joe said on the web site, although that entry is 15+ years old and a lot of the things mentioned never happened or petered out pretty quickly - mostly because of the creation of the stand-alone prototype meets. The web site describes the evolution of the RPM meetings held in conjunction with the NMRA conventions. The first stand-alone prototype modeling meet I recall was at RPI in the 1985 timeframe (it was after the Milwaukee convention). The second was a year or so later in Springfield, Va (organized by Keith Jordan).

These two events proved that prototype modeling - which many in the NMRA saw as some sort of threat - could support its own convention. The independent prototype meetings were a direct reaction to issues with prototype modeling displays at NMRA conventions. It was hit or miss - if someone on the convention committee was "pro prototype modeling" - such as Pittsburgh or San Jose, there was a great prototype modeling event held in conjunction with the NMRA convention - if there wasn't, there was no "RPM event."

Independent prototype modeling meets, like Naperville, and the WPM evolved from the meets at RPI and Springfield. There were no "judged" modeling contests - this means the display room would stay open. And since there was none of the NMRA points system a well-done model of a re-detailed plastic boxcar was as welcome as a scratchbuilt freelanced model built from wood. Before the RPM meets you simply didn't see "redetailed" plastic at the NMRA contests . . . .

Hope this clears that up.

Posted by: Kimble MRCS Pioneer on Sat, Dec 26 2009     web.mac.com/rcarignan//Layout/
Great show. It's nice to hear another New Englander, though he has such a Massachusetts accent!

I must take exception to Frary's comment on the current state of the Maine two-footers. He made it sound like the remains are lying in rot and rust. Yes, there is a lot of rolling stock that has yet to be renovated and is lying in the "yard" in Portlnd, but the state of narrow gauge enthusiasm in alive and well in Maine.

We have four groups that are keeping the Maine two foot railroads alive. The Maine Narrow Gauge Railroad and Museum in Portland has the bulk of the SR&RL rolling stock. The train runs daily, steam a few times a month and special events are scheduled, such as the Polar Express during Christmas.
http://www.mngrr.org/

The Wiscasset, Waterville and Farmington in Alna Center has a real sweet operation. When I was there last month they had a locomotive all part in the shop for restoration. I was able to walk right up and peer down the tubes.

The old Bridgeton & Harrison has a small museums in Bridgeton & in Phillips the SR&RL has a small operation. I saw a half hour railfan video on pubic access TV on the SR&RL and plan to get up to Phillips this next summer.
http://www.srrl-rr.org/

The Boothbay Railway Village is a private attraction with a great collection.
http://www.railwayvillage.org/


Rob Carignan
Portland, Maine

Posted by: Tom W MRCS Pioneer on Tue, Dec 29 2009     pwvrr.webs.com
Very good show,
Dave is one great photographer. Dave shot my layout for Great Model Railroads in 96. I learned more about lighting in one day with him then I learned in my life time. I helped set up the lights by his request. I had tight isles in the layout then. I remember looking thru that big camera with the hood and wondered how he even saw anything thru it. But he took poloraid pictures for the test shot to see what they looked like and then looked great. It was a great time with him. (I still have those test shots)
Tom Wilson
Pittsburgh and West Virginia RR & Union RR

 
 
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